Inner Mechanisms for Modded apk Detection and Google Play Payment Mechanisms

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Hello,

I was wondering how exactly google play or a game developer (for example EA in Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes) might catch me using a modified apk. I am not upset as I knew the risks involved. I am wondering what methods they use. who does the root detection? is it on app launch? What are the different methods an app detects a root? Which of those methods does rootcloak cover up? which methods are left open and why? Are there other methods that we know exist but don't know how they function?

I was playing with a modified of that game; and I did not have rootcloak activated at the time. I read on their website that there are different types of ways to detect root. A fellow player confirmed that it is easy to detect a rooted system (I am using bluestacks). I also feel that I got greedy and climbed the ladder too fast. I have since learned from my mistake on a new account.

I also know that when I spend money in game, there is a many month time delay from a hosting service like Apple or Google Play to sending the company the money. I immediately get my items since the hosting service tells the company to do it; but the game developers don't actually receive their money right away.

My hypothesis is this:

As a result due to the time lag; I could spend some money on the game and cheat but be smarter about it and not be greedy. Even if rootcloak doesn't hide my root and EA discovers I am rooted, they probably won't care unless someone reports me, but I have stopped the need to be reported as I won't advance too fast. So I may end up on some type of list to watch out for. They won't ban/suspend me because I have spent money on the game and they want it so will forego that.

The best thing to do is never get reported by using the modded apk wisely. Then use rootcloak. Lastly, spend a little money ($20 in my case) to give them less incentive to ban me.

Is my hypothesis sound? Am I skipping anything? Is there something I've left out?
 
Close enough in that they decide who to ban base on severity of cheats. Most root detection when they blatantly know you're using root and yet not banning means they are in that category. another clear cut category is when they just deny root, no brainer there.

Most likely, in your case though, is that the mod is not safe enough. There are lots of info sent to dev, if the mod doesn't clean it up then it's fairly easy to figure out 5 + 2 isn't 27 (saw a game mod with +3k dmg, good grief, that's immediate ban with no question asked lmao). cases like this, easier being reported cause that's fairly clear to users who play.
 
Spending money on a game makes zero difference to the dev either this is a very common belief the dev will much prefer to ban a cheater than make a little money from them, also knowing that cheater will more than likely make another account and pay again anyway.
As for root, its not normally a banable offense and if root cloak can bypass their detection is pretty poor root detection in the first place and should have easily been removed by whoever modded the apk.
Like @BTG said seems you are looking too deep into it and ignoring the fact that using the mod got you spotted not that you were rooted
 
In my case I had god mode on. So you are basically saying that it is because people reported me first and then they investigated?
 
In my case I had god mode on. So you are basically saying that it is because people reported me first and then they investigated?
Probably around 90% of bans across any game is from being reported yes. It could also be that there is a server check the modder missed or was not able to remove a lot of devs add these simple checks but they are usually pretty simple to bypass
 
Ahhhh now I see. It makes sense now that I looked around more; you modded this game for AR right? I'm guessing since I found that modded apk online it probably doesn't have the best security I was using the God Mode only, unless it was downloaded from here and re-uploaded elsewhere: Star Wars™: Galaxy of Heroes v0.7.199186 Mod APK - iHackedit

Is that your modified apk?
 
Ahhhh now I see. It makes sense now that I looked around more; you modded this game for AR right? I'm guessing since I found that modded apk online it probably doesn't have the best security I was using the God Mode only, unless it was downloaded from here and re-uploaded elsewhere: Star Wars™: Galaxy of Heroes v0.7.199186 Mod APK - iHackedit

Is that your modified apk?
We have it in VIP so it has pretty decent security so it is very likely whoever did mod it has messed up and missed one of the checks or. It is not our mod no we generally don't do God mode/1 hit kill with games in VIP as we have found them to be very unsafe we normally tend to have multipliers (×5 ×10 etc) to attack and defense
 
generally multiplier is much harder to detect. your heroes get stronger depending on what you equip them. multipliers are not much difference than equipping them with good gear, can't find that needle in haystack ;)
 
How about if I push through mod battles or get 3 stars on everything?
 
needle in the haystack.
if you have a pole in the haystack, even a semi-blind dev will bump to it :tearsofjoy:

3 stars everything is ok until that 3 stars turned your needle into a pole. you are the needle, how well can you hide? :D :D
 
generally multiplier is much harder to detect. your heroes get stronger depending on what you equip them. multipliers are not much difference than equipping them with good gear, can't find that needle in haystack ;)
I know its a year old post but Im interested in this as well :)
So couple months ago I installed VIP mod from here with dmg multiplier from a friend :p, was nice and very helpful till the game got updated. Then since his VIP expired I downloaded the free mod. I noticed some difference here. The multiplier in VIP mod didnt change my parameter, I had 600 atk but during battle the multiplier work I could have like 5k dmg or so. While the free version this time the parameter changed! I have 5k atk on my status!
My question:
1. Is this the kind of decent security you talking about with the VIP mod?
2. Will dev able to see my parameter?
3. Do they able to see my battle history like; my action pattern, spamming ultimate, or every dmg output I made?
4. About VIP and free mod above do you think the VIP is safer? despite both having the same 5k+ dmg during battle?
 
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